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919 hould consumers be allowed to know how farmers grow food?
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:06 pm 
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Looking back, its easy to see the farm was a place of living and dying, and that all the living– people, animals, birds, and plants¬¬– knew what was coming.

We the living tried to be kind to those dying, but try as we might, the process was never really pretty. Picture, for just one of many possible examples, a barnyard of chickens hopping about without their heads, hearts pumping blood into the air until there was nothing left to pump. Not pretty, unless you were hungry.

We, the living, have since moved to town, and now rely on industrial production systems for our food. (And hey, to hell with chopping off all those chickens’ heads!) But our newly found distance from the food we eat allows us to forget about the somewhat messy business of living and dying on the farm.

Living in the city allows us to think we can live without cruelty! And so the farms of industrial agriculture have become targets of those who want to eliminate cruelty. But whether we can take lives, as we must takes lives, without being cruel, or unseemly, is now the question of the day. And so we ask…

Should consumers be allowed to know how farmers grow food? (Food Chain Radio & Forums #919)

(Tags: ag gag laws, animal agriculture, farming, industrial agriculture, confined animal feed operatons, CAFO, Animal Agriculture Alliance, The Humane Society, animal cruelty, factory farms)


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:30 pm 
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This from Winters at WOWO...

You might look into the recent Ag-Gag law proposed here in the state of Indiana.
As I reported on it here on WOWO Radio, I hastened to point out that I thought the
lawmakers got it right when they included a 48 hour waiting period before any
pictures or videos were released to the public. It stated that evidence had to be
submitted to law enforcement or appropriate agencies before it was released.
This allowed for genuine infractions to be made public while at the same time
preventing 'photo-shopped' images and 'staged' animal abuse to be uncovered.

The bottom line is that most animal Ag is blameless. They treat their animals
with the utmost care because a happy, healthy animal produces at optimum
levels. Sure there are bad actors in our world, but the majority of livestock
producers are doing their best to do the right thing.

Lets also not forget that it's the mission of HSUS to go after any and all
animal agriculture. I would suggest that you investigate the financials of
HSUS and discover the amount of their annual budget that actually goes toward
rescuing abused animals versus the amount spent on HSUS attorneys to
go after animal agriculture. If you can get the truth, I believe you'll discover
that what they spend their money on is far different than what is portrayed
or more importantly believed by the public.

I would also recommend an examination of the "chicken little" publicity campaigns
they've used to pander to an uninformed public. One that comes to mind is a
video showing a foundered cow being moved out of the doorway off a milking parlor.
Now I'll be the first to admit that using a forklift to do the job looks horrific. Even more so
in the view of someone who knows nothing about farming and thinks eggs are
made in the backroom at Krogers or Safeway. The truth of the matter is, moving a
1400 pound milk cow is an ugly job no matter how ya cut it. I challenge anyone to
explain to me how many grown men that would take and further, how you would
do that, that would look humane.

Finally the fact that you are bringing these people on your show without representation
from the Livestock world has given me concerns as to what your mission is.
And quite frankly, that will disturb me until I learn otherwise.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:58 pm 
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This from Gary at Hoosier Ag Today...

Perhaps the public should see how news is made, how special interest and activist groups manipulate the media. Perhaps we need some undercover cameras in newsrooms to show how facts are not checked.

Transparency and accountability should work both ways.


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